Advice needed or have I been reading too much Harry Potter?

[Anonymous]

Lately I've been bothered by something that more or less started last year, except I haven't been paying attention to it, chalking it off as paranoia. As I haven't got solid proof or anything, I'm still willing to allow space for paranoia, but this time I want to make sure, just in case.

I think I'm being stalked. The suspected stalker's someone I know and there's a possibility she's using witchcraft. That last one's a stretch I admit, cause she'd gotten interested into tarot readings and I don't know how far she's gone.

So, with that, how much can you trust your gut feelings on things like this?

So if the scenario is like my paranoid mind tells it, I like to know what spells she could be using and how to protect myself from them. I've got some ideas on the spells she may be using, though they are a bit... :embar maybe I should really stop reading Harry Potter.

If they aren't possible, that's added information for me anyway: are there any spells or anything that allow the caster to know what her intended is doing and/or thinking? How about spells that require the caster to touch the intended, like hitting on the head, holding the arm, etc? (I know she always makes sure to do this whenever we come acrosseach other) How about spells or anything that require the intended to eat/drink something? Is there any way to know for sure if you are being hexed, or generally what people would call "under a spell" (and is there any better way of saying this?).

And last but not least, I'd appreciate anything you can give me on protection.

[RedRonin]

Hi.

Before I can go into a whole lot of thought as to whether or not you have a legitimate issue or just need to not eat spicy food before bedtime, some additional information would be useful.

Firstly, what exactly is this person doing to make you believe you're being stalked?  Gut feelings are strong indicators, but eventually you need something additional to go on with something like this.

As to the witchy part.........I'm of the mind that this kind of stuff if more the work of an overactive imagination.  To begin with, there really aren't just a whole lot of people out there that have any legitimate talent or knowledge.  There's a truckload of posers.  There's plenty of people that imagine themselves as some kind of uber-mage.  The number that can actually perform good spellwork are rather rare, though.

Now on top of that, the more a person knows and the stronger they are, the less they desire having attention drawn to themselves.  With that in mind, I'd have to ask what it is about you that would merit someone putting out the time and effort.  Why would they be using the energy to set up the workings to do such stuff?  They don't waste their talents playing games.

Now, if after all of this you still believe you are being stalked, I'd strongly recommend to "get off your ass and go to the police" spell.  Depending on this other person there's always the "leave me the hell alone or I'm going to shatter your kneecaps with a bat" spell.  They tend to be a lot more direct and a lot more effective than tossing around some tea leaves and eye of newt.   Besides, there's really nothing sadder to see than a little blind newt trying to navigate with a tiny white cane.

Exercise your mundane brain as your first option.  It's your best weapon, anyway.

[NachtSorcier]

I agree with Red.  Most of the people who claim to go around hexing left and right are just full of hot air and a desire to be "cool."  Chances are if you've done nothing to make this girl extremely angry or jealous, then she wouldn't have the desire necessary to curse even if she did have any magical talent.  

But that aside, Red hit the nail on the head.  If you can gain any proof that this girl is stalking you, threats and summoning the police are in order.

[Sebbi]

There's a phrase that springs to mind every time I see a post like this and it goes "No demon can posses you if you can turn round and laugh at it"

If indeed it is the case that she's using spellwork against you it's only working because you believe it is. Do you see what I mean? It's like a feedback loop - the more energy you give it the worse it becomes.

All that said, Red's probably right, the chances of actual spellwork being involved is slim and Red is right (in fact, Red is right about many many things), use your mundane brain to tackle it.

At least you seem to be quite down to earth about everything, which is more than you can say for a lot of people. Keep your feet on the ground.

Good luck

Sebbi

[Anonymous]

Ok, I'm a little confused here, lets just say that someone has put a curse on you that really does know what they are doing. Doesn't it work whether you believe it or not ? If it really doesn't work just because you don't believe in it, then there can't be curses that do work on anyone, so then curses are non existant, depending on your beliefs ? And if that is the case, then binding spells won't work either, because in a way, they would be considered a type of curse ? Well, now I have really confused myself, help !!!!      BB

[Sewa Yoleme]

Personally, I think there are two types of spells/hexes/curses: those that work only if the victim knows about them and allows them into his/her consciousness; and those that work completely independent of the victim's knowledge. I think the latter are created only by people with a very powerful will, great magical talent, and many years of experience. And even those hexes will have much more lasting power and damaging ability if the victim actively believes in them.

Think of it like a virus attacking the human body. If you have a suppressed immune system and the bug comes along, you get sick. If you're healthy and the bug comes along, frequently you won't get symptoms--unless people keep telling you that "everyone's sick, this bug is powerful," and you believe it. Then you get sick right away. Then there are really strong bugs that will take you down no matter how healthy you are or how strongly you believe you're invulnerable.  In all cases, however, your beliefs have a tremendous effect on your immune system's ability to ward off disease, or to heal from disease once you've gotten sick.

The same goes for a curse. Open your mind to it, and you're extremely vulnerable. Believe/know that the hex has no power over you, and 999 times out of 1000, your belief will completely counteract the curse. It's really a matter of whose belief is stronger.

Remember, will + emotion + energy + belief = magic. That formula works whether you're creating a hex, or negating the effects of someone else's hex.

.:. Sewa Yoleme

[Anonymous]

Now on top of that, the more a person knows and the stronger they are, the less they desire having attention drawn to themselves.  With that in mind, I'd have to ask what it is about you that would merit someone putting out the time and effort.  Why would they be using the energy to set up the workings to do such stuff?  They don't waste their talents playing games.

I agree with Red.  Most of the people who claim to go around hexing left and right are just full of hot air and a desire to be "cool."  Chances are if you've done nothing to make this girl extremely angry or jealous, then she wouldn't have the desire necessary to curse even if she did have any magical talent.  

As to that...yeah. Not to sound arrogant, but my stalker's jealous. She's been jealous of me since more or less the day we met years ago, although about what...I don't think I've a right to say here as it concerns the privacy of several people. Word of honor involved, sorry.   That jealousy I didn't pay attention to, I even did tolerate, although with gritted teeth, some of this stalker's antics, though I got some jitters when I got told by a friend that the stalker was seen frustrated that I wouldn't give her what she wanted. Knowing her, she's capable of doing things like what I'd conjectured if it were possible. Which is why I'm pretty disturbed now.

But thank you. I feel better seeing your answers (and I admit a little guilty I was edging away from rationality).  :embar

[Anonymous]

Firstly, what exactly is this person doing to make you believe you're being stalked?  Gut feelings are strong indicators, but eventually you need something additional to go on with something like this.

Things she's not in the habit of doing -- inviting herself into my place, asking me to drink/eat from something she's got, suddenly touching me, etc. One time after not seeing her for a while was really weird. She was irritated I won't come over to her (I was in a hurry and I said so), and while we were arguing out of the blue she walked up to me and touched me, and after that she shooed me away.

[Anonymous]

If indeed it is the case that she's using spellwork against you it's only working because you believe it is. Do you see what I mean? It's like a feedback loop - the more energy you give it the worse it becomes.

All that said, Red's probably right, the chances of actual spellwork being involved is slim and Red is right (in fact, Red is right about many many things), use your mundane brain to tackle it.

Ok, I'm a little confused here, lets just say that someone has put a curse on you that really does know what they are doing. Doesn't it work whether you believe it or not ? If it really doesn't work just because you don't believe in it, then there can't be curses that do work on anyone, so then curses are non existant, depending on your beliefs ? And if that is the case, then binding spells won't work either, because in a way, they would be considered a type of curse ? Well, now I have really confused myself, help !!!!      BB

Open your mind to it, and you're extremely vulnerable. Believe/know that the hex has no power over you, and 999 times out of 1000, your belief will completely counteract the curse. It's really a matter of whose belief is stronger.

Remember, will + emotion + energy + belief = magic. That formula works whether you're creating a hex, or negating the effects of someone else's hex.

.:. Sewa Yoleme

Thanks!  

[Anonymous]

There are several senarios here ......   the first being, maybe you are making yourself believe she has hexed you and therefore making matters worse in your own mind. The second, this girl is a bit of a fruit loop and is just trying to scare you in which case Reds advice about the police should be followed. And third ...... and this could be way off key but ever thought that she might find you attractive or have a crush on you ?    Maybe she doesn't know how to deal with her emotions and some people can turn pretty mean in that kind of situation.    Oh well, just a thought.  I hope it all sorts itself out.

[Gryphon]

Ok, I'm a little confused here, lets just say that someone has put a curse on you that really does know what they are doing. Doesn't it work whether you believe it or not ? If it really doesn't work just because you don't believe in it, then there can't be curses that do work on anyone, so then curses are non existant, depending on your beliefs ? And if that is the case, then binding spells won't work either, because in a way, they would be considered a type of curse ? Well, now I have really confused myself, help !!!!      BB

In the broadest sense, magick is an energy form. When we cast a spell we are making a conscious decision to direct this energy in a certain way.

The easiest spells to accomplish are the ones that work in the natural flow of energy. Spells that try to go against the natural flow take more skill and time and effort. A (ethical) binding spell is done by using energy much like a defensive throw in a martial art would. By reflecting the energy of the person to be bound back onto him or her, they in effect end up creating their own binding when they continue the behavior the binder is trying to prevent. (Well that was convoluted and clear as mud)

On the other hand, a hex or curse, goes against the natural order of things. Think of trying to push a boulder up a hill. It requires a great deal of concentrated enegry, you can't stop and rest even for a minute or the rock will roll back down the hill. If the rock encounters a barrier or someone else pushs it down the hill while you are trying to push it up, the rock is more likely to go down than up at that point. Think of the barrier as disbelief in hexes/curses. The majority of people intent enough to cast an effective curse will not be able to overcome both the Forces of Nature and a barrier against their spellwork. It is a very rare witch indeed, who has both the skill and the energy reserves necessary to overcome all of that. Also by the time one has studied and practiced enough to reach that point in their magickal skills, they very often have also developed their ethical skills to a similar level and find hexing and cursing a distatesful activity. The spell casters left who have both the knowledge and the desire to create a hex are very rare indeed.

[Anonymous]

Thanks everyone, I think I see what you mean. It can be quite confusing, but thanks to you all, I have a much better understanding of how it works.   BB

[Anonymous]

I agree, Kate, the first and second are more likely considering she's never made me doubt her orientation, and knowing her...just, nah. It doesn't fit. (Besides, that would be pretty scary, aomeone who's after you and has a crush on you) Glad to hear your input on this, thanks.  

And Gryphon, that was very illuminating. Thank you.